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So I picked up an NC Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring 6-speed recently and obviously one of the first orders of business is to start tearing it apart and installing CM's. ;)

Rather than give you guys just the final picture once everything is installed, I figured I'd update this thread as more and more gets progressively installed. I have quite a bit planned for this car. The bread and butter though is the V1/YaV1 and ALP.

The car is dark and the ALP heads are dark so they may be a little hard to see, but I like that. ;)

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The front heads have been custom cut into the grill. The exact placement had to do with mounting options available behind the grill itself.

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I like how integrated they are in the grill. They fit right into one of the honeycombs. Because they're so tight, there really isn't the option to adjust them very much, and it's not really possible for me to reach behind them heads and adjust them without taking the whole front of the car off.

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The installer I used at CNC Autodesign did make sure everything was leveled properly and did a great job tucking the wires for me. It looks like one of the heads is toed out a few degrees unfortunately, even though I brought up the importance of this over and over and over again. Because of the way things were mounted and cut, it's not really all that feasible to adjust this without cutting the grill and opening the hole further, so I'm hoping it tests well *fingers crossed* and the increased sensitivity of the ALP's help compensate for this...

Another issue was that one of the wires running from the front head to the CPU in the cabin was damaged upon installation and so that head doesn't work. I'm going to have to get a replacement cable from BRD and rerun that cable myself before our next testing event, but luckily I know how to get that cable through now. Fortunately it's not a bad head. The ALP has a really useful ability to tell you how many heads are plugged in. I ran that and even though I'm running quads, it only gave me three beeps. That's weird... Walking around the car with a lidar gun and testing all the heads, I found out which head it is. (The ALP's are very sensitive to you have to put the lidar gun right over the head you're testing to prevent the other head from seeing the beam too.)

Anyways, this is a bit annoying, but I'm glad I found the issue and am able to address it.

Let's look at the rears now.

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The heads are mounted on either side of the license plate frame, about as far out as you can go before they start bumping into the edges. The installer built a custom mount for the heads that attaches along with the license plate screws and the cables run into the car behind the license plate.

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Originally I looked into mounting them either on the trunklid or the fixed part of the car. The trunk lid is too thin to screw into and I want to avoid securing the heads with tape this time around. The area where the plate is is plastic and so it wouldn't be a secure hold. Therefore we had to go with the solution presented here.

I've got mixed feelings about it. It definitely works and is probably the best solution given all the options available. The trunk release on my last car was on the right since the backup camera was in the center. On this car since there's no backup camera, the trunk pop is dead center. The first few times I'd go to open the trunk, I'd reach to the right and instead of hitting the trunk release, I'd pull the right rear head up into the air. Whoops. The bracket isn't super solid. It's decently solid, but still pliable and bendable enough to where you can reposition it. Fortunately it does hold itself in position when aim it where you want. One head also seems to stick out a smidge further than the other.

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Ultimately as long as they're straight and level and provide sufficient coverage for JTFG performance, that's what's most important to me.

Here's a look at my current setup in the cabin.

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V1 up near the RVM in dark mode. CD now slightly off-center. Moto G for YaV1 is now running horizontally because running it vertically blocks too much of the windshield in this smaller car. I need to get a better mount for it that doesn't have a suction cup that blocks so much of the windshield and is easier to insert/remove the phone.

Here's a little tighter field of view showing what I see when driving.

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The cable for the phone is hardwired and run down in through the instrument cluster. In the lower right hand corner of the instrument cluster is the ALP LED. It points right at me and is always visible.

The ALP control pad is near my shifter. It's easy enough to hit. Just run your hand down and right into the corner and you'll find the buttons. They're not all that easy to find since the buttons are only slightly raised, so some practice to get it into my muscle memory helps with locating the buttons automatically.

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I'm going on vacation for about a week and when I return, I'd like to continue working on this... front and rear dashcams, GII integration, replacing the stereo with a Nexus, adding a backup camera, considering a scanner and PCAS, and so on. There's really not much room in this car so keeping things as uncluttered as possible (heh) is definitely important. We'll have to see how everything balances out and how little I can have in the car while still having everything I want. ;)
 
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Wow! All of your gadgets look so awesome man, congratulations! I would get tested ASAP though - other than that... everything looks good to me, the interior rocks :thumbsup:

thanks for sharing
 

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Very good install! I'll need to get the info about the installer from you. I need to find a proper way of mounting my heads. Right now they are on 3M tape.
 

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Very good install! I'll need to get the info about the installer from you. I need to find a proper way of mounting my heads. Right now they are on 3M tape.
If you get in touch with CNC Autodesign in Bellevue, ask for Aaron. He normally does K40 and 9500ci installs, but he seems really interested in the ALP (naturally) now that he's more familiar with it. He's definitely a CM enthusiast.
 

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Congrats on the new ride. She looks like a sweet and a fun ride!

Kinda sucks that one of the front heads is toe out a few degrees but there's still a good chance you'll be JTG anyway, but since we can't help but be perfectionists around here it's kinda sad to see your chosen installer not get it right. I suppose the old saying "if you want something done right...." applies. haha
 

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Congrats on the new ride. She looks like a sweet and a fun ride!

Kinda sucks that one of the front heads is toe out a few degrees but there's still a good chance you'll be JTG anyway, but since we can't help but be perfectionists around here it's kinda sad to see your chosen installer not get it right. I suppose the old saying "if you want something done right...." applies. haha
haha no kidding. I actually started doing it myself, taking the inside of the car apart. I stopped after my hands got sliced up pretty good running cables into the trunk area. I needed someone else to cut up the grill too and figured I'd just leave it up to someone else with more experience to do that. Every option has compromises it seems. :)
 

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Nice car and nice install. Congratulations! It looks like JTG to me. Thanks for the pics.
 

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Got a bit more done to the car.

First and foremost, I got that one front head fixed! Turns out the cable was slightly damaged when pulled in through the firewall. The connector that plugs into the CPU had the plastic get a little bent. I straightened it out, had the ALP relearn the number of heads, and now it recognizes 4 heads and that last head also responds to laser! :rock: That was the top priority. Now to get it tested and hope the heads are straight enough for the ALP's to compensate a little.

The main things I took care of today are getting an add-a-circuit and ground hooked up, installing my front dashcam, and hardwiring my phones.

Here's the fuse box with the add-a-circuit installed. It's located low to the left of the driver's leg.

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The dashcam is installed right behind the RVM. I'm using my ITB-100HD again. It's not visible from the driver's perspective, only the passenger's.

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Eventually I'm going to install my rear dashcam as well, but I wanna talk to a tint guy first to see if removing the dashcam later on down the line will pull the tint off in that area.

For the iPhone mount, I got a new Miata mount from ProClip and am reusing the same holder I had previously.

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The cable is hardwired now, along with my Moto G cable. The ProClip mount bumps a little into the passenger's knee when they're sitting there, and it does it a little more than it did in my Sonata since the Miata is a smaller car. The phone itself leans towards the driver so it doesn't touch the passenger. It's a little annoying for the passenger unfortunately, so I may look into other options down the road if need be. I'm going to upgrade to the iPhone 6 as well which'll require a different holder and cable. I'll switch over to a black cable too (if not a ProClip mount with a hardwired cable built into the mount) to keep everything stealth and unobtrusive.
 

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Looking good! Enjoying the manual?

You may consider one of these right angle USB cables for your Moto G, I'm using this one for mine. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045JHJDS/?tag=rdf0cd0c-20
Oh I'm enjoying it tremendously! I keep going out to drive my car just for the joy of driving it. Any time I can find an excuse to drive it, off I go! We need more coffee! I want to test GPS lockouts! The sun is out! :D

That right angle USB cable is exactly what I was thinking as well. GMTA. ;) Because the suction cup is pretty large, I want to get a smaller mount that attaches to the dash and blocks less of my view. Here's ProClip's solution which'll let me slide the phone in and out easily.

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The reason I haven't sprung on it yet is it's $90 just for the phone holder! That's not even including the base that connects to my dash. I'd like to have it volume/lock buttons up which means the cables will exit to the right, and it may bump into the round instrument cluster cover when putting the phone in and out.

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I'd prefer having the cable go left because it'll make the phone easier to put in and out and the cable will drop right into the dash. It'll just mean that my volume and lock buttons will be on the bottom and a little tougher to see/find, but no big deal I suppose.

Maybe I'll just get a simpler and cheaper mount and go for the right angle cable. It just seems kinda silly to spend more for a phone mount than for the phone itself. :p
 

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Got the rear dashcam up today. Instead of using 20lb tape which holds like crazy, I picked up some 5lb tape so that it's easier to peel off without ripping the tint off the back window when it comes to that. Because the Miata is a smaller car, the rear dashcam actually takes up a pretty good sized chunk of my rear visibility. Because the camera isn't exactly where my head is, it looks a little smaller in the photo.

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You'll also see the beta Max2 that I'm running with the V1 to compare both detectors.

I'd also looked at mounting the rear dashcam against the back of the driver's headrest so clear out my visibility, but when I put the top down, it would actually hit the camera on the way up and down so that wouldn't work. I'll run it like this and hopefully it won't be too big a deal. The weather's been pretty fantastic lately so I've been running with the top down. It feels fantastic, but I won't get a rear dashcam when I do that. The way it's set up now, the camera will actually go down with the rear window when I put the top down.


One of the trickiest parts was figuring out how to run and tuck the wires so that they'd move with the PRHT when it retracted or went back up. Gonna do some more custom wiring to clean up the power connectors, but it's running now with a different plug and it's nice to have both front and rear dashcams again.

The windshield is a bit curved so the front dashcam is a bit tilted. The perfectionist in me isn't too thrilled about that so I may have to move the front dashcam a few cm too to get it perfectly straight, though it will stick out just a smidge under my RVM. Oh wells...

Edit 1: Yeah this definitely isn't gonna work. It blocks prime rear visibility behind me and I can't see directly behind me. This location was great on my Sonata since it was so much farther back, but it's definitely not gonna work with the Miata. Back to the drawing board... Maybe off to the side behind my head. Just gotta get a mount that'll let me rotate the camera and point straight back, not bend with the window and point off at an angle.

Edit 2: To keep my camera straight, I either need a different camera, or I can make a custom mounting solution for this camera if I'm going to keep it on the rear window, but mount it off to the side.

The CR500HD has a mount that would work...

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I really like the camera, but would have to cover it in some matte black cover so it's not so shiny and reflective. They still haven't updated the firmware to clean up all the text at the bottom either. So instead if I kept the same camera, I'd need to rig up some sort of small but stable balljoint that would connect the camera's mounting point to the window.
 
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You're a braver man than I, I'd fear damaging the top/mechanism! Great work though, shame about the rear visibility.

Speaking of which, the visibility out of the PHRT is tiny! If you sat in my NB with the hardtop you'd be jealous :D

Only of the visibility though.... :(
 

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You're a braver man than I, I'd fear damaging the top/mechanism! Great work though, shame about the rear visibility.

Speaking of which, the visibility out of the PHRT is tiny! If you sat in my NB with the hardtop you'd be jealous :D

Only of the visibility though.... :(
Ah man, I'd love to check out your NB and see how it compares. :D

It's funny that you mention damaging the hardtop. I thought I did at first. Before I had the installer do my ALP's, I was trying to run the rear cables myself. If you partially lift up the top so that the rear part behind the windshield comes up, you can fit yourself down in the gap behind the seats to run the cables through. Well I was poking around there for a while and eventually got to the point where I couldn't get the top to come off. Uh oh... I drove up to the Mazda dealer, hoping it would be covered under warranty, and he went and fixed it in 2 seconds... Turns out there's a button in the trunk he called "valet mode" which is supposed to prevent you from being able to pop the trunk or lower the roof. He pressed it and it was good to go. So easy! Oddly though, the only button I could find there was to disable the trunk release from inside the cabin. I can't find the PHRT disable button. Gotta check out the manual I suppose b/c it must be a different button, if it is actually there...
 

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Oh man, I'd have a heart attack if I thought I had busted the roof! Glad it was a simple fix though!

As for my NB, it's not exactly what I'd call comfortable but I have fun, been driving it a lot more again since my GF is now on a different shift pattern. Treated it to a nice clean today so it's all shiny again! :D
 

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It's been a while since I've updated this thread so here's an update on how everything looks on my car nowadays. :)

 

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Nice toy! My wife had a '02 Miata before a tourist hit the side and put it into a granite median just high enough to catch the undercarriage and deploy the airbags. We have been tossing around an idea of getting the new RF Miata.
 
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Enjoyed the tour very much. Gave me new ideas for the install.
 

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