Best Windshield Detector For NV, CA, UT + AZ

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I'm new to the forum. I've read lots of posts already. What great info. here. I'm looking for the best radar detector for NW Nevada (Reno-Carson City-Gardnerville) area. I also drive in CA (all over), UT + AZ frequently. I'm looking for something for city and highway driving. I'm looking for something quiet, that's not overly hyper at non-threats. If I'm getting false positives all the time, it'll reduce my confidence in it. I'm sure I'll hardwire it fairly quickly after receiving it once I'm sure I'm keeping it. I've owned a Belltronics RX 65 before and it seemed to give me lots of false positives around shopping centers and other random places. I turned off X band and it was better, but still not great. Maybe false positives are just part of living with a detector? I'm a set and forget kind of guy. I'm never going to hook my iPhone into a unit for Escort Live. I'm just too lazy for it and I don't like cabin clutter. I don't mind spending time setting it correctly when I get it to make it right nor do I mind updating things, but just not while I'm driving. It seems from lots of reading here there are currently 3 units to consider: Redline, Max or V1. The Redline seems like the way to go for detection, but is it possible to make it quiet without hooking up your phone? Or should I get the Max for a quiet ride, realizing I'm sacrificing some serious range to do so. The car I'll need it most in is an Orange Boss 302 Mustang, so it's high profile for LEO's anyway. Maybe I should just get the Redline for range in NV? I just torn between a quiet cabin (plug and play) and excellent range and detection.
 

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It really sounds like the Max is for you. You could go ahead and get the Max, and see if the range is good enough, and a ways down the road get a redline for Nevada.

Most of us on here have multiple detectors. It becomes an obsession.

I don't like to admit how many I have. Lol
 

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If you want lockouts, go for a 9500ix or a Max (or STI-R+ if you want the truly 'best' for that kind of driving with built-in lockouts.)
If you want maxiumum range, go redline or V1, but prepare to see lots of falses unless you pair with Escort Live or YaV1.
 

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You might want to look I to the STIR+ you will get the range of the Redline, the quietness of the Max, and the clean cabin look. (Being that it's a custom install)
 

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You might want to look I to the STIR+ you will get the range of the Redline, the quietness of the Max, and the clean cabin look. (Being that it's a custom install)
This seems like the best option given your dislike of clutter. I ran my redline on the highway and 9500IX in town for a long time. The MAX just simply isnt giving the range that most had hoped for. The MAX has actually been compared range wise pretty close to the RX65 in USA mode.
 

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I was testing my friends Max last night with my LZ1. It REGULARLY wouldn't alert to a laser hit, then about 5 seconds later start alerting. The rear detection on his unit is busted as well, from what I can tell, I can shoot him with laser from behind and get jack for alerts. I keep telling him to send it in but he says it works fine for K/Ka (which it does, we've compared to my 9500ix and it is better), but he said he's going to get LI's anyway so he doesn't care about it.

I'm really disappointed the Max couldn't live up to it's name, sadly, redline still whips its ass.
 

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At first I was going to recommend the Redline but if the RX65 was a little too chatty then I strongly do not recommend the Redline. This would leave you with a few options to keep those false alerts down without using Escort Live.

1. Beltronics STI-R Plus, this would be "the best", it costs the most but is a remote detector, with GPS lockouts, and excels others in sensitivity.

2. Passport Max, Still new but has come along way, includes GPS lockouts, quick reaction time, good sensitivity. Plagued by false alerts for a while but many of those have been ironed out.

3. escort 9500ix, a good detector which has been surpassed by the max, GPS lockouts, the cheapest of the bunch. Still a good detector but there have been advancements.

I personally would recommend the Max, or the Plus, if you run into a lot of Ka band the Plus will shine.

If you interested feel free to PM me and ill see if I can help you out on one.
 
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I was testing my friends Max last night with my LZ1. It REGULARLY wouldn't alert to a laser hit, then about 5 seconds later start alerting. The rear detection on his unit is busted as well, from what I can tell, I can shoot him with laser from behind and get jack for alerts. I keep telling him to send it in but he says it works fine for K/Ka (which it does, we've compared to my 9500ix and it is better), but he said he's going to get LI's anyway so he doesn't care about it.

I'm really disappointed the Max couldn't live up to it's name, sadly, redline still whips its ass.

With my Ultralyte LR-B, I've seen similar things. The rear-facing LIDAR sensor is virtually worthless, and in the front, it takes a pretty direct hit to set it off. With the V1, a shot in the cabin in ANY direction sets off the detector. The redline is slightly more blind — you have to shoot in its general direction. Your friend has a point in that if he's going to get jammers, LIDAR performance is not a deal breaker. Otherwise, the V1 is the only detector that I'd recommend to offer any sort of protection from LIDAR. It's the only detector I've had that's had a 50-50 shot of alerting me to scatter. The RL is nearly 100% at direct shot notification, but it's pretty much useless for scatter as well.

However, on radar, I assure you the Max is pretty decent, and holds its weight against its competitors,even if it falls short of a properly configured RL and V1.


As for the OP, if city driving is important to you, the Max is a good choice. Otherwise, the RL and STI-R+ are better choices for long range detection. Note that AutoLearn lockouts are only a small part of what makes the MAX and 9500ix great city detectors. It's also inherently the M4 antenna design. While being insensitive to off-axis K band is a problem for long range difficult encounters, it comes as a feature when you're driving by a bunch of supermarkets.
 

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V1 or Redline is my opinion.
 

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Between the MAX and the RX-65 (S7), at this particular juncture, I would buy the RX-65. Absolute beast in USA mode, lightning quick. You'll get K falses but almost no Ka falses.

No frills no mills, but shes got it where it counts kid. ;)

Either that or go BS/RDR Redline - YaV1
 

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Between the MAX and the RX-65 (S7), at this particular juncture, I would buy the RX-65. Absolute beast in USA mode, lightning quick. You'll get K falses but almost no Ka falses.

No frills no mills, but shes got it where it counts kid. ;)

Either that or go BS/RDR Redline - YaV1
He doesn't want falses, why on earth would you suggest a rx65 over a max in that situation :p
 

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Look with any detector you are going to have falses. Even a BS/RDR Redline/V1C will false (K band, anyone?).

The RX-65 doesn't have TSR software, so that'll generate a ton of falses. However, it does have USA mode, a very sensitive S7 horn, blistering reactivity, respectable range (I'd put it up even against the MAX).

I can with live falses. But performance is king in RD's. Always has been, always will be. The 9500ix is a great detector for locking out false alerts, but it struggles in the range department. If the MAX is $550, and a Refurbed RX-65 is playing in the $200 range, you better know what I'm choosing.
 

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Another clean install option is the SmartRadar, and it will save you some dough compared to a STi-R+. Has lockouts etc.
Not seeing anywhere that says the Smart Radar has GPS lockouts, only way this could be done is with Escort live.
 

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Not seeing anywhere that says the Smart Radar has GPS lockouts, only way this could be done is with Escort live.
Yes, but that's sort of how it's intended to be used, since you don't have to buy extra stuff in order to connect it to your phone - right?
I just bought myself some NFC stickers. They are going to be used to automate the connection process between my phone and my devices since my phone is not dedicated. It's the next best thing to a dedicated phone.
 

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Not does the SmartRadar have auto speed dependent X/K band sensitivity, which makes a huge difference for city quietness.

I also strongly disagree with the S7 as a viable alternative. It is a fairly old platform, and while it provides a good balance between off-axis sensitivity + reactivity and cost, it doesn't represent the OP's goals of reduced falsing. The fact that the Redline is a chatty city detector due to K band sensitivity is a huge part of why we aren't all just recommending Redlines.

If falsing is the main concern, then the best recommendations are the Max and 9500ix, with the STI-R+ / 9500ci as seconds. Of those, the STI-R+ and Max are preferred because of their superior IO reactivity.

If the OP feels that these 3 detectors are all out of his price range, then we can have a discussion about the next tier down of compromises.
 

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If K Band falsing is the qualifier, the 9500ix is a good choice. I'm not exactly thrilled with the reduced range, but it does offer a database for speedcameras and RLC's. Lockout capability is a good feature as well.

I don't like the M4 horn. Simple as that. The MAX uses a modified M4 horn (M5).

How much further are you really getting with the MAX compared to the 9500ix? I doubt a whole lot.
 

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If K Band falsing is the qualifier, the 9500ix is a good choice. I'm not exactly thrilled with the reduced range, but it does offer a database for speedcameras and RLC's. Lockout capability is a good feature as well.

I don't like the M4 horn. Simple as that. The MAX uses a modified M4 horn (M5).

How much further are you really getting with the MAX compared to the 9500ix? I doubt a whole lot.
Do you have any data to support your claim?

I've been observing my Max equal a factory default V1 configuration in range on various real-world encounters, and I've never seen a 9500ix do that. Plus, the MAX's reactivity protects you against classes of IO threats that the 9500ix is simply too slow to respond to. Between the 9500ix and MAX, the choice is a no-brainer. If you don't like the M4 horn, that's fine, but I cannot find any reason other than the minor cost savings why one would recommend a 9500ix over a Max. Most if not all of the initial bugs with the Max have been resolved.
 

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Welcome to the forum and glad that you are doing your homework. Let us see, hhhhmmmmm, you want the simple fuzzbuster effect with no falses, light comes on, let off of gas, light goes off, mash gas, just plug it in, how about a drone? From someone who has been hit with lots of I/O, you need the longest range unfiltered RD that you can get with fast alarms for super brake jobs, don't settle for anything else for it will cost you more in the long run. Which is more important, more filtering (slower shorter range RD) and more tickets or less filtering (faster longer range RD) and less tickets? Do check out the new V1 when it comes out for the Redline may get unseated, other wise, go with the Redline. The fast unfiltered V1 has saved me with it's 2 volume priority alarms with no paying tickets (lucky knock knock wood desk chips for sale, free shipping but the chip will cost $600, LOL) for I will stay with the proven V1. You also need red light info also (waze, trapster)....
 

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