What it looks like to a LEO when they shoot a RD user with I/O

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I’d be interested to see what one of the older non-DSP units would look and sound like as the RD user would go into a very fast braking condition. I imagine the audio would be the same as this demonstration, but would the older units have the ability to display the speed if gotten on the brakes immediately. Those gray ghosts were always a challenge in NC. :D

Also, when did the DSP radar first come out encouraging us to violate PETA and use rabbits, fur a flying, at every turn in the road?


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I’d be interested to see what one of the older non-DSP units would look and sound like as the RD user would go into a very fast braking condition. I imagine the audio would be the same as this demonstration, but would the older units have the ability to display the speed if gotten on the brakes immediately. Those gray ghosts were always a challenge in NC. :D

Also, when did the DSP radar first come out encouraging us to violate PETA and use rabbits, fur a flying, at every turn in the road?


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Was introduced in 1994 for DSP.
 

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Shows why using a rabbit or two is so important against IO shots.

Horn placement for the LEO is also important. Most of the vehicles I've looked at they are place on the left side near the A post. Or the horn being mounted up high on the passenger side visors. Those using radar, please be careful where you mount the horn due to RF exposure.
 

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I’d be interested to see what one of the older non-DSP units would look and sound like as the RD user would go into a very fast braking condition. I imagine the audio would be the same as this demonstration, but would the older units have the ability to display the speed if gotten on the brakes immediately. Those gray ghosts were always a challenge in NC. :D

Also, when did the DSP radar first come out encouraging us to violate PETA and use rabbits, fur a flying, at every turn in the road?


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The slowest analog unit I have run (MPH K55) would still get you in less than a second. The best (Kustom KR10-SP / Trooper / Hawk) is still under .5 seconds provided the radar is in good working order.

You see how quick the Kustoms are/were in this clip at the beginning of the video. And keep in mind, that is in moving mode which usually takes a fraction of a second more to display a speed vs stationary mode.

[video=youtube;AdnogN_aN8A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdnogN_aN8A[/video]

Nice work Vortex.
 
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Shows why using a rabbit or two is so important against IO shots.

Horn placement for the LEO is also important. Most of the vehicles I've looked at they are place on the left side near the A post. Or the horn being mounted up high on the passenger side visors. Those using radar, please be careful where you mount the horn due to RF exposure.
Yeah, in addition to any RFI issues or physical exposure, it's also a question of visibility and having the option to move and point the antenna in a slightly different direction when needed. The beam is actually fairly directional.
 
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The slowest analog unit I have run (MPH K55) would still get you in less than a second. The best (Kustom KR10-SP / Trooper / Hawk) is still under .5 seconds provided the radar is in good working order.

You see how quick the Kustoms are/were in this clip at the beginning of the video. And keep in mind, that is in moving mode which usually takes a fraction of a second more to display a speed vs stationary mode.



[video=youtube;AdnogN_aN8A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdnogN_aN8A[/video]

Nice work Vortex.


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can see why rd don 't work :)
 
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The slowest analog unit I have run (MPH K55) would still get you in less than a second. The best (Kustom KR10-SP / Trooper / Hawk) is still under .5 seconds provided the radar is in good working order.

You see how quick the Kustoms are/were in this clip at the beginning of the video. And keep in mind, that is in moving mode which usually takes a fraction of a second more to display a speed vs stationary mode.

[video=youtube;AdnogN_aN8A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdnogN_aN8A[/video]

Nice work Vortex.
Thank you. That's a really good video of rolling C/O with the Kustom unit. I like how solid it is at grabbing a vehicle's speed and holding on, like you said.

A couple things I noticed... it seems to lock onto the strongest signal, not the fastest. A vehicle speeding in the distance would be in the clear until the strongest signal passes. Does this unit have a fastest mode?

What was with that blip of 107mph? I've seen similar issues with the stalker, but moreso when you initially turn on I/O and it messes up the patrol speed calculation and adds it to the other vehicle's speed.

I love how this video shows that the unit can't get speed before the other vehicle crests a hill, or even around corners (like 0:50) where you can get a visual on the car and obviously the detector will pick it up, but it's not within the radar unit's sights yet.
 

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I love how this video shows that the unit can't get speed before the other vehicle crests a hill, or even around corners (like 0:50) where you can get a visual on the car and obviously the detector will pick it up, but it's not within the radar unit's sights yet.
The spot Nine_C1 picked a couple of weeks ago to test some of us on off-axis (downhill around long curve) gave me a better picture/reassurance of the capabilities of LEO radar were vs good RD (C/O of course........but, fortunately, that's what we're usually up against locally:D) I loved that even my M4 8500 x 50 on the dash behind the wiper could see the *LEO* before it could read me.
 

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If it were to be an actual LEO's perspective, with the IO shot--looks like the right person to pull over immediately! :D The doppler tone was so abrupt---if it wasn't for visual confirmation, I'd have thought the driver hit a tree. lol.

The video pretty much confirm you're SOL with IO being the only rabbit on the road. I remember playing around with the Stalker ATR handheld. There is a noticeable delay when the V1 will alert when pulling the trigger . I think handheld is slower than dash mount......still when I was clocking traffic the speed reading felt very fast--probably no more than a second after triggering. Putting the two together, the V1 alert when the Stalker gets the reading. No way you can out brake your your way out of a ticket!
 

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Thank you. That's a really good video of rolling C/O with the Kustom unit. I like how solid it is at grabbing a vehicle's speed and holding on, like you said.
Kustom units have always been excellent with their stable target tracking capabilities while the Stalkers have always tended to jump around.

A couple things I noticed... it seems to lock onto the strongest signal, not the fastest. A vehicle speeding in the distance would be in the clear until the strongest signal passes. Does this unit have a fastest mode?
The HAWK was the premier radar of it's time (late 80's) and the 1st to introduce same lane tracking, but it did not have fastest mode. Kustom was the 1st to introduce fastest mode with the Eagle series radar and in fact sued Stalker for copying that function, but lost. Since Kustom's version required operator control (press and hold fastest button) and Stalker's version was a selectable mode, the court determined there was a significant difference between the two and failed to uphold Kustom's claim of infringement. A real tragedy for Kustom since Stalker really did copy their fast fourier transforms.

What was with that blip of 107mph? I've seen similar issues with the stalker, but moreso when you initially turn on I/O and it messes up the patrol speed calculation and adds it to the other vehicle's speed.
My best guess.....and don't laugh.....a horse fly with a good tail wind.:p You hear a popping sound that corresponds with that 107 MPH reading in the video. Well, horse flies have been clocked at 90 MPH you know and maybe this was the Carl Lewis of horse flies LOL. In any case, it sounds like something impacted the windshield at the time of that reading and for a brief instant was the closest / strongest target.

I love how this video shows that the unit can't get speed before the other vehicle crests a hill, or even around corners (like 0:50) where you can get a visual on the car and obviously the detector will pick it up, but it's not within the radar unit's sights yet.
Yep, the general rule of thumb is that radar is line of sight. However, every rule has it's exceptions. I have clocked vehicles around the bend on several occasions when there were strong reflectors in the bend. Metal Guard rails will carry the signal both ways and enable readings well before line of sight is established in some cases.
 
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Yep, the general rule of thumb is that radar is line of sight. However, every rule has it's exceptions. I have clocked vehicles around the bend on several occasions when there where strong reflectors in the bend. Metal Guard rails will carry the signal both ways and enable readings well before line of sight is established in some cases.
X2 seen this happen quite a few times.
 

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"The Carl Lewis of horse flys" ...Bwaaaaaha,ha,ha,ha,I about fell off the chair laughing,Nine - (& I believe it,too.) :p
That's hilarious & one of the best lines you've ever posted,I'll be chuckling all day over that one.
 

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Anything over 100mph is crazy high pitched...
You ought a hear the pitch at 207 mph!

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I say you can beat IO BUT not that scenario and NOT that particular unit. I think we all have power braked in time to avoid an old IO shot. The new units are just too good
You're not out braking the RADAR but instead out braking the leo.
 
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"The Carl Lewis of horse flys" ...Bwaaaaaha,ha,ha,ha,I about fell off the chair laughing,Nine - (& I believe it,too.) :p
That's hilarious & one of the best lines you've ever posted,I'll be chuckling all day over that one.
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So.. Trooper so-and-so is sitting on the parkway reading his paper... constant on ... but only sort of paying attention. You come around the bend and get that full frontal shot... you have only a couple seconds to get that speed down before he spills his coffee in his lap... and moves his paper and finally sees the number on the display. He "heard" your speed... but thankfully he didnt "see" your speed.
 

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C/O is pretty different. Your detector will go off well before you're in range to be clocked.
 

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