What it looks like to a LEO when they shoot a RD user with I/O

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Five Hundred and I also did some radar testing today too.

One of the tests I wanted to do was to see what it's like, from a LEO's perspective, of shooting a RD user with I/O.

When a RD user panic brakes when getting blasted with I/O, just how quick is the radar unit at grabbing the vehicle's speed before the inevitable nosedive?

The setup we did was to have the driver get up to speed and then take their foot off the gas and just coast. They'd then hover their foot above the brake pedal and as soon as the RD alerted, panic brake. Five Hundred did great and got his ABS to kick in. :p

It's basically the ideal setup for the RD user since not only do they already have their foot over the brake, but they're also mentally ready for and even expecting the alert.

It's also great for the radar running LEO because there's only one target and it's a clear and easy kill shot.

http://youtu.be/qZTMGomHkQQ
 

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The doppler tone makes the nose dive blatantly obvious. I was surprised how much of a pitch change there was. It must really screech at highway speeds. ;)
 
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I was amazed at the audible doppler effects a couple of weeks back when we played with Nine_C1's (1/19). The tones are a dead giveaway
 

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Excellent contribution. I'm sure there are a few people who still believe they can outbreak close I/O! :lol:
 

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Wow, really cool video I have never heard the Doppler tone before (only knew it was there but people always have it turned way down to off).

On a side note this is a worst case scenario as the stalker is a monster, if we would of used a slower gun I still feel he would only have gotten MAYBE 1mph off, so even in a best case scenario the chance of escape are pretty much zero. I laughed with you during the "rock falling" Doppler tone.
 

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I wonder how this works in traffic. I mean, the officer still needs to tell which car was the "evil speeder."
 

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Great contribution. I wonder how drastic the change is at freeway speeds, the percentage in change is much smaller. No way are you going to out brake I/O anyway lol
 

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Thanks for the video, too cool.

I gotta get me one those!
 

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I'm seeing Fan interference. Make sure A/C is shut off or heat and no walkie talkies/Cell phones/Police radio turned or transmitting will cause interference.
 

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No, the fans and AC were off during testing. I actually had to pause testing to defog the windshield before shooting the V1 footage b/c the windshield had fogged up with the AC/fans off so you couldn't see out via the dashcam. The walkie talkie was on standby and my cell phone was on but set aside.

What, specifically, looks like RFI?

We actually played with this in Five Hundred's vehicle afterwards, moving the antenna around the dash like a stethoscope to see where we could find the fastest signal. In certain spots, we were able to get it to register up to 189mph! Anything over 100mph is crazy high pitched...
 
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Awesome video's I love the laugh! It was nice to see though that it didn't matter what Detector you were using, both models responded just as quickly in this scenario. Next time I'll be sure to buy and bring more SD cards. If I didn't leave them running while we were parked I might still have the video's lol. Kinda wish we had video of when we were in my car everything turned off (engine and battery) and still getting 90mph speeds - who knows maybe someone might have been able to tell us why :p
 

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Kinda wish we had video of when we were in my car everything turned off (engine and battery) and still getting 90mph speeds - who knows maybe someone might have been able to tell us why :p
Oh yeah! That was weird... The electronics were running off the battery, but the AC and engine were off.

I still wanna try and outbrake I/O.

What if next time we used a segmented guard off V1, tried shooting when it's dry, and even tried a radar unit that takes a little longer to acquire a lock.
 

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No, the fans and AC were off during testing. I actually had to pause testing to defog the windshield before shooting the V1 footage b/c the windshield had fogged up with the AC/fans off so you couldn't see out via the dashcam. The walkie talkie was on standby and my cell phone was on but set aside.

What, specifically, looks like RFI?

We actually played with this in Five Hundred's vehicle afterwards, moving the antenna around the dash like a stethoscope to see where we could find the fastest signal. In certain spots, we were able to get it to register up to 189mph! Anything over 100mph is crazy high pitched...
RFI= Radio freq interference. Stuff like AC,Timing belt,Alternater,Car fans if any RFI the radar unit will display it.During transmitting radar or lidar in moving or stationary no moving lidar it must be turned off.More info can be found by searching the net.
 

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RFI= Radio freq interference. Stuff like AC,Timing belt,Alternater,Car fans if any RFI the radar unit will display it.During transmitting radar or lidar in moving or stationary no moving lidar it must be turned off.More info can be found by searching the net.
Right. I'm familiar with that.

What Five Hundred is referring to is a test we did when the engine, AC, fans, etc were all off. It was just the first twist of the key to turn on the electronics on the car battery.

During the testing we showed in the video, the AC was off and care was taken to ensure we weren't clocking the alternator, fans, or any belts.
 

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Excellent contribution. I'm sure there are a few people who still believe they can outbreak close I/O! :lol:



X2, don't forget too that he knew the shot was coming (anticipation) and also had the brake covered. None of us have this luxury on the highway!!

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Great contribution. I wonder how drastic the change is at freeway speeds, the percentage in change is much smaller. No way are you going to out brake I/O anyway lol


I say you can beat IO BUT not that scenario and NOT that particular unit. I think we all have power braked in time to avoid an old IO shot. The new units are just too good.
 

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great stuff votex, as protias mentioned what if there are more players in the field, think leo would be tone deaf and of shift :D
 

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great stuff votex, as protias mentioned what if there are more players in the field, think leo would be tone deaf and of shift :D
haha! The Stalker does have an annoying doppler. Most LEO's do run with it on though. In some states, it's required as part of getting good tracking history so things hold up should they go to court.
 

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I am surprised. I thought it would be a little more delay before the speed dropped. Quick on the brakes in those runs. I bet mine would be more like 1-2 seconds delay... I need to learn to brake first then audible WTF?
 

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When a RD user panic brakes when getting blasted with I/O, just how quick is the radar unit at grabbing the vehicle's speed before the inevitable nosedive?
That is great infos ...it is the reason I never brake hard in banarea , if they use the tone it is a sure giveaway ...
probable cause for a search...

It is a good thing that Rfi bugs the radar ...they use less the tone .
 

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