RMR Phantom T

Discussion in 'General Radar Detector Discussion' started by man114, May 20, 2011.

  1. man114

    man114 PSL +15 Advanced User

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    I'm not a big fan of RMR for obvious reasons, but they're coming out with this new detector, the Phantom T. What intrigues me about this model is that is has MMIC (monolithic microwave integrated circuit) technology. This will supposedly make this model undetectable to the Sceptre. If you do some research on the technology while I can't confirm that it has been applied before to a radar detector, in theory it might deliver what it promises because it takes the microwave mixing down to a chip level and theoretically should have next to no emissions for the Sceptre to pick up on. While this is RMR we're talking about, it could be total BS, it might actually work and this is what I'm curious about. Of course we'll have to wait until this thing shows up for testing, but you never know. It might make for future generations of non leaking Cobras.
     
  2. that guy

    that guy 0_o Advanced User

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    are we actually gonna believe RMR?
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  3. man114

    man114 PSL +15 Advanced User

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    Believe RMR? Not exactly. I belive the technology that they claim they are going to use might work. Whether they use it or not is another story. They might simply claim to. If you read about this MMIC technology it might deliver on that claim. If RMR uses it and it works, then it might prompt more reputible manufacturers to use it as I'm sure RMR's range will still suck.
     
  4. upstatedoc

    upstatedoc unprofessional Advanced User Premium Member

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    man oh man you sure talk about crap detectors a lot! :hmm:
     
  5. Won Hunglo

    Won Hunglo Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    Anything scrambler or jammer produced by RMR is a scam. They have yet to make a positive contribution to society.
     
  6. Andrew21

    Andrew21 "All Blade, All The Time" Administrator Premium Member

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    I don't even know how they stay in business. If anyone purchases these crap detectors they should be shot. These things go well with the air fresheners hanging from the mirror. Just plastic junk hanging from your windshield.
     
  7. man114

    man114 PSL +15 Advanced User

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    I'm more interested in the technology they use (or claim to use) in this radar detector, not the company themselves. I've tested their sucky products before and own a few.

    If (and that is an if), they use it (for all we know it is marketing given their track record), this MMIC technology should have merits in making an undetectable (or at least hard to detect) detector because microwave mixing would be on a small chip, so emissions would be next to nothing. From what I found it hasn't been used in a radar detector before.

    While judging detection range is impossible from an RMR unit, if it at least delivered the same performance and other RMR units in terms of detection range, and delivered on being undetecable, or nearly so, it would present the possibility of practical application of the technology in another brand of detector.

    It isn't really the RMR detector itself I'm interested in, just the technology they claim to use when applied to a radar detector.
     
  8. protias

    protias Train Horn Advertiser Advanced User Premium Member

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    I'd say I would trust 'em about as far as I can throw 'em, but I can toss that "jammer" pretty far.
     
  9. fatchick1o9

    fatchick1o9 PSL +15 Advanced User

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    If someone is gonna buy a low performance RD, I'd rather they buy a RMR over a Cobra. Atleast the RMR wont make my higher end unit false from leaking RF.
     
  10. man114

    man114 PSL +15 Advanced User

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    Don't get me started on the Cobra falsing other detectors. I've actually gotten so familiar with the beep patterns on my detectors that I can pick them out most of the time from real cops. If you're curious they'll even false RMR units, thats how much frequency they leak. I remember driving around sometime last year with that RMR C-302 I found at Goodwill and parked at the mall Ka band was going wild (and it has a really annoying chirp). Sure enough in the car right near where I parked sporting the $40 Cobra.

    I have an RMR remote unit (as I've mentioned before it was the cheapest such unit available, so I use it when driving into the city because in all honesty the V1 is a theft target and is really kind of heavy to remove any carry, unmounting the RMR would be more trouble than a theif would probably be willing to try), and it doesn't leak enough to false the V1, I've run them both at the same time to test the range. The Solo S2 I use in my other car ignores it.

    It did false the Cosmo 1000, when I test drove that a few weeks ago (anything falses the Cosmo, even a wayward glance, so while it's sensitivity, especially on K band, isn't bad even by today's standards considering it is from 1998, it falses almost as much as the V1 in highway mode in a city setting).

    Worst of all 99% of detectors I see are Cobras. Of better detectors I saw one guy with a V1 (spotted the arrows through the back of the vehicle), and one with an Escort Solo S2, and I look fairly regularly.

    I can't believe it is legal for them to leak that much, but what do I know, I'm not the FCC.

    My fascination with the RMR Phantom T was that it is the first detector I that I could find any info about that tried to use a MMIC to minimize its leakage. To me it seemed like a good idea. I'm not really willing to pony up the cash to buy one because I'd not run it anyway, and don't know anything with a Spectre or VG-2 to test the claims anyway (plus it makes no difference in this state anyway, and if I were making frequent runs to Canada I'd probably use a Redline). Someone will hopefully eventually test one to satisfy my curiousity, and if it did deliver as promised, hopefully the technology would be used by other manufacturers, like Cobra, to eliminate leakage that falses other detectors that was my big hope for it. Despite their other false claims I'm willing to be open minded that they could possibly have come up with a good idea for once.
     
  11. insidercw3

    insidercw3 PSL +15 Advanced User

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    The Beltronics STi-Driver uses "mimics" to reduce RF emissions and has since 2005. All that means is that the detector has a LowNoiseAmplifier (LNA) in it.