HP-905's in 2012 Hyundai Sonata

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I recently got my HP-905's in and am super excited about them. I ordered a triple head setup for the front, but after talking to some of the guys at a local Car Toys here, they said that they've been shot from the rear lately with laser, so I opted to take one of the heads and install it in the rear. (I've got a 4th head on order now which I'll install myself, now that I know how he did it.) :D

In any event, here's my install in my 2012 Hyundai Sonata:

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It's a bit tough to see, so let's zoom in closer...

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You can see the veil I sprayed on my chrome grill. :)

What do you guys think about the placement of the head? Is it far out enough to be effective? I'd prefer functional over visually stealthy.

I'd also like to find a way to test the heads for alignment to make sure they're levelled. What's an easy way to make sure they're not pointed right or left, or tilted up or down if I don't have an easy way to put a bubble level on top of the heads?

I'd love to find someone with a lidar gun to actually test these jammers with too! :)

On the rear, here's the single head I mentioned:

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Up close, here's the mounting job:

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Inside, I really like the accessibility and placement of everything. The CPU is underneath the stereo/AC controls in the center. The speakers I hear easily, the lights I can see, and the USB port is accessible for updates as well.

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Here's a zoomed out view so you can get a better idea.

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With my right arm where my arm would rest on the armrest, right where my hand would naturally go is the circular control knob I installed for the Blinder system. I like that it's extremely accessible without having to reach in a panic for a kill switch. It's a piece of cake to give the knob a twist to turn off the jammers.

At night with all the LED's glowing, everything looks really cool. :)

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I've got my Escort Live hardwire cable incoming now and I'm excited about installing that myself. I talked with my friend who's a mechanic and he explained everything as far as running the cables and how to pop off the interior panels. It's quite easy once he showed me! The Escort Live controller is going to go directly to the left of my HP-905 CPU. I'll add those pics once I get that system in place. Same thing with when I install the second rear jammer.

One thing that was an issue for the professional installer was that the HP-905 cables are all only one length. Getting the rear head wired was tricky. The cable was run actually through the center of the car, under the rear seats and under the center console. It'd be nice if Blinder offered a longer cable option for the rear heads.

"Defense mode activated." I love hearing that when turning on my car. :D
 

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I'd like to share some pics from my veil install as well. I thought about making a new thread since the title of this one is geared towards the HP-905's, but let's do it all here anyways. :)

I installed my veil before I got my RD or Jammers. I've never done any mods to my cars before so, as a total n00b, this is literally the most I'd ever done to a car up to this point. I've got a friend who details cars for a living and he hooked me up with this setup of masking tape and paper to cover up the paint of my car before I applied the veil.

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It was taking me all day to mask off my car so he jumped over to help and did an amazing job in a matter of minutes...

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Before doing the headlights, I started with the foglights since they'd be less visible, smaller, flatter, and gave me a chance to figure out the technique.

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Seeing the lights getting darker, I definitely liked the look it was created!

I used the included paint brushes for veil, but they left some noticeable streak marks and didn't go on perfectly smooth. I know gravity's supposed to pull it down, but you could definitely tell it was going on unevenly and that it was being done with a paint brush.

My detail friend cleaned out his spray gun, showed me how to use it, and then we filled it up with Veil and started doing that instead.

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With the spray gun, things went on MUCH more easily.

I found that it coated the lights very very lightly, almost to the point where you could barely tell it was going on. It was only when I went over several times that I noticed it was getting darker and darker. With the spray gun, you have a very fine level of control of the thickness of the Veil application.

One thing I found tricky was that, with the Sonata's rounded, bulbous headlights, it was tough to spray things evenly. It wasn't like a flat wall where you just spray side to side from top to bottom. You kind of have to round corners. Think of an oval, for example. If you spray from side to side with every swipe, the sides that taper down are going to get more spray than the center. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but it didn't strike me at first. The headlights bulge out in the center so, once I realized this, I spent a little extra time spraying in the center. It did start to accumulate a bit and then drip down the headlight.

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It did eventually start to blend out, but not completely. Trying to blend things out with a brush helped sorta kinda. It did help blend the layers a bit, but then it introduced those streaks from the brush.

I'm totally new at this and I'm sure a professional with experience could do a more even and consistent job. Nonetheless, in the end things smoothed out pretty nicely and I only notice a few small inconsistencies if I really take the time to look... Now that it's applied, I never look closely anymore... and I'm a perfectionist!

Speaking of attention to detail, here's two things to look out for when spraying on veil:

1) Dust/dirt flying around in the area. If there's construction going on, the dust flying around in the area will speckle in with the veil, making things bumpy and not look right.

2) Bugs. Not only bugs that are already there (cleaning those off are easy enough), but bugs that fly into your spray application. Apparently that's really common in paint jobs. My detail friend handed me a set of tweezers dedicated just to plucking bugs out of paint jobs. :D

You can see both here.

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If I was to do it again, I would aim to spray more evenly and do it in a cleaner location. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. ;)

I also sprayed my chrome grill and the license plate. The plate was easy enough to spray on the ground.

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When all was said and done, it left a really badass smoked out look to the headlights and chrome on the front of the car. I really like the look that it created.

To get a good feel for what it did to my car, I pulled it up next to another similarly colored Sonata without Veil. Can you tell the difference? :)

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Here's a shot with the headlights and foglights on too for comparison.

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With respect to headlights, I found a couple things:

1) It definitely does dim the headlight output.

2) Maybe it's just me, but it seems to make the headlights more laser-focused rather than making the whole headlight glass glow.

I've since installed HID's for the headlights and the foglights to make up for the decrease in brightness due to the veil. I really like the look of it. With the Veil applied on the headlights, it does make the shape of the bulb and reflectors show up against the headlight glass rather than just glow evenly. It's not a big deal, but it does make me do a double-take when I look at my headlights at night.

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Here's a closer look at the headlights on at night that shows it a little bit bett, looking down on them from above so you can see the difference between the headlight bulb and the front of the glass where the image is being projected on the Veil-covered glass.

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Oddities like this aside, I really do like the look of the Veil install. It's only supposed to last so often so whenever I need to apply it again, I learned a lot to do a better job for round two. Hopefully a few things I learned will benefit some of you guys as well. :)

Until then, I really do like driving around with smoked out headlights and the added benefit of assisting my jammers!
 
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That a good looking install, make sure you get it tested.
 

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Great job ! You did all this at the dealership?
 

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Very nice. Now get tested!
 

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Here's a tip for checking Sensor Head alignment for leveling & Left/Right positioning.
I use a Red Laser pointer like you see used in lecture presentations.You must do this at night so you can see where the red beam is pointing down the highway.

**Caution** - NEVER do this when other cars are on the road w/ you.Pick a rural location w/ no traffic,road should be FLAT & LEVEL...if not,allow for the "crown" of all roads to help drain off rain water in a storm.My pointer outputs ~50mw @ 532nm & is extremely bright & will cause eye damage.N-E-V-E-R look at beam directly even at distance (& be careful of reflections coming back to your eyes directly also!!!).These are made cheaply & many DO NOT have proper IR filters internally.****NEVER EVER use a green laser pointer,they are even worse & have much higher IR output still & no IR filter either****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also,in your case I see there is no way to hold the Laser Pointer on top of your sensor,but you could carefully hold it along the sides of the HP-905 for perfect parallel position & have a friend stand behind car at tailight & view where the red beam is pointing in relationship to the forward facing car on the road.The beam is much easier to see if there is dust or humidity in the air.
 
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"Now go get tested!" You guys are making it sound like getting tested for STD's... :p

I did do the Veil install at the dealership since I'm friends with a lot of the people they're and they're cool about helping me with my car.

I love the idea of testing with the laser pointer. Def. gonna try that.

What's a good way of finding someone with a lidar gun here nearby to really test the jammers? Are there meetups organized?
 

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"Now go get tested!" You guys are making it sound like getting tested for STD's... :p

I did do the Veil install at the dealership since I'm friends with a lot of the people they're and they're cool about helping me with my car.

I love the idea of testing with the laser pointer. Def. gonna try that.

What's a good way of finding someone with a lidar gun here nearby to really test the jammers? Are there meetups organized?
Who says it isn't? :p

There is one in WI. Check the thread for my sig. If you need my contact info and location, send me a PM.
 

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That's cool to hear. I'm in WA though so that'd be quite a drive to get tested... :)

Do you know of any in the Pacific Northwest?
 

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Impressive installation!!!

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So I just installed my Escort Live directwire cable. I'm really happy about it because I did it myself and it's the first time I've ever done anything like that. :)

The install was pretty straightforward. Run the detector cable down from the RVM, across the headliner, down the A-pillar airbag cover panel, down in to the side of the fuse box, under the steering wheel column, and up through the dash.

For power I used the included T-tap to bite into the power line for one of my cigarette lighter outlets. For the ground I found a metal eyelet and got a screw and nut to hold the ground wire in place.

For the actual control box, I mounted it next to my HP-905 CPU and drilled a hole to allow for the cords to pass through.

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One thing I really like is that Escort gives you this holster for the control box. I thought it was cheesy at first and that I wouldn't use it, but because the USB port is on the back, it's much more convenient to mount the holster onto the vehicle and be able to slide the control box in and out to access the rear USB port when necessary.

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Something that I was asking and I know several others were as well was if you can have your phone paired to two bluetooth devices simultaneously. ie. the car and the escort live system. The answer is yes!

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My RD I've mounted above and to the left of my RVM. At first I liked the idea of it being very visible, but driving around with it a bit, it feels a little too in-your-face. I've turned the screen off and I'm going to try moving it to the right side of the RVM to have it a little more out of the way.

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A couple things I've noticed using Escort Live for a few hours today:

It didn't seem to auto-report I/O Ka hits to the screen. Do I have to hit the report button for it to be shared?

Running Waze and the EL app before I had a smart cable, I could drive endlessly with the phone plugged in and stay at 100% battery life. With the smart cord and an active Bluetooth connection, even with the iPhone 4s powered and charging, I'd lose about 10% of my battery life per hour.

The speed limit thing is retarded. It always shows a limit of 25 mph, no matter if I'm on city streets or on the highway. (Edit: This seems to be working more accurately after using it for a while.)

I really like how you can lockout frequencies with a single tap on the phone.

I hate the mute button on the cable. There's no feedback on the mushy button and I can never tell of I actually pressed the button when I press the button. To lock out a hit, I have to take my eyes off the road and onto the RD and press it a good 4-5 times at least to make sure it's actually working.

I like running the RD on dark mode so others don't see it and then having a secondary (primary) screen and control system on my phone.

It seems to be a functional app that needs a lot of work, both on the hardware side and the software side.
 
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Okay, so I finally finished my install. I've added a 4th HP-905 head to the rear passenger side of my car and added an iPhone Proclip.

First off, I gotta say the Proclip is AWESOME! THANK YOU to you guys who suggested it here! It is pricey and seemed silly to spend that kind of money on a phone holder, but it really is worth it. I never thought I'd actually be getting excited about a phone holder, but it really is that nice. :) I LOVE feeling like I'm a cockpit in the driver's seat. :)

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cool, looks great :D

my wife already says "there are so many lights at night"

i reply "you should see CJR's" :rofl:
 

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lol thanks! :)

I know, I love the lights! I love the fact that the Escort Live lights glow blue to match my car's lights. Same thing with the 9500ix.

Now if only the HP-905's had a blue LED model to match the rest of the car! :D
 

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cool, looks great :D

my wife already says "there are so many lights at night"

i reply "you should see CJR's" :rofl:
That's nothing!
 

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