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    What are those dots behind my mirror?

    In my quest to find a good spot for my radar detector I went searching. But first I tried to razor blade one Dot off. No Cigar.
    Than goodness for Google.

    It is called a Third Visor Frit. Who Knew it had a name?

    The next question is can the RD penetrate enamel or ceramic paint? I guees I have to find out if they put metal in ceramic or enamel paint.

    Anyway here is an explanation of why we need a frit in our lives.

    "Seeing dots on windshields
    Q: Several years ago, black dots started appearing on new vehicle windshields. The dots are usually only around the periphery of the windshield. What purpose do these dots serve? --Brad, Midland, Texas

    A: Windshield glass contains a black enamel band (called the frit) around the periphery that is baked into the glass. This black band includes a border of dots. See figure. The band has an etched surface to enable adhesive to bond to the glass, says a sales manager at Able Auto Glass. When car manufacturers install the windshield, they bond the windshield to the vehicle with adhesive placed on the etched part of the black enamel glass area (inside surface). The outside of the enamel band shades the adhesive from the Sun and protects it from ultraviolet radiation. The band also serves a cosmetic purpose by covering up the adhesive and gives the windshield edge "a more finished look."

    [Steve Coyle, Auto Glass Specialists] The black dots blend the border into the glass

    Rather than a straight black edge, the dot border blends the solid band into the clear glass, says Steve Coyle at Auto Glass Specialists. Some windshields also use the dots as a third sun visor to block the Sun behind the rearview mirror where most visors don't reach.

    (Answered July 26, 2002)"

    Yep it has metal in it...


    "Pigments
    Pigments or dyes can be natural--clay, calcium carbonate, mica, silicas and talcs, or synthetic-- engineered molecules, calcined clay, precipitated calcium carbonate and synthetic silicas. Hiding pigments, used to make the paint opaque, include phthalo blue, iron red oxide and titanium dioxide coated with silicon or aluminum oxide



    Read more: What Is Enamel Paint Made Of? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_7162281_enamel-paint-made-of_.html#ixzz1kL3qYj2V"
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    frit, who would have thought - i use to call it patchwork (but i soon realized i was the only one to call it that
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    First time I ever heard that, thanks for the good info.
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    So why does the frit exist?
    Purple = sarcasm


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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    So why does the frit exist?
    It exists to block sunlight in between the sun visors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrenchedexcess View Post
    It exists to try to block sunlight in between the sun visors.
    ftfy
    Purple = sarcasm


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    Quote Originally Posted by pillowsplat View Post

    The next question is can the RD penetrate enamel or ceramic paint? I guess I have to find out if they put metal in ceramic or enamel paint.
    ahhhhh this is the important question :-) Well I can tell you that in my experience it did impact performance when mounted behind this enamel.



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    Re: What are those dots behind my mirror?

    I went searching on Google for what my new Mazda Frits (dots around RVM) were made of and it directed me to this post. lol

    Still trying to figure out what mine are made of, but i guess in the end ill just have to test and see if it effects performance on my car.


    Hmmm......

    Mettle should be the only real problem, i bet if i test it with my Fluke meter for continuity that will give me the answer!
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    Re: What are those dots behind my mirror?

    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    I went searching on Google for what my new Mazda Frits (dots around RVM) were made of and it directed me to this post. lol

    Still trying to figure out what mine are made of, but i guess in the end ill just have to test and see if it effects performance on my car.


    Hmmm......

    Mettle should be the only real problem, i bet if i test it with my Fluke meter for continuity that will give me the answer!
    Good detective work finding this post:-). Since they don't really serve any purpose besides an additional sun screen....is it possible to razor blade some of them off just in front of the detector?

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