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    "Blu Eye" police radio detector

    "Blu Eye" monitors radio traffic activity used by emergency vehicles and alerts when they are in close proximity. It does not allow someone to actually listen in on radio transmissions, but alerts to the presence of an emergency vehicle (police, fire, ambulance,etc.) up to 1km away. Made by Target Automotive, the device can detect pulses sent over these channels every few seconds, so it works even when there are no transmissions. $1,600 and only available in the UK for now, but a model for the USA's P25 protocol is on the way.

    I like the idea if they cut the price to about $400. And only if they allow a Bluetooth connection to a smart-phone, WITH an ap that runs in the background and notifies with a pop up window.
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    I can see how this could be useful in Europe, where scanners are illegal most places and the radio protocols are encrypted. That price tag is way high, though. In the US you can get a digital scanner for $300 or so and with careful programming achieve the same effect. I was able to hack together a cellphone app using a serial to blutooth adapter that works as you describe:https://www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=31131

    I've only had a few successful "close call" hits... just road construction crews and factory maintenance personnel I happened to drive past. Aside from police mobile computers, I'm not aware of any radio protocols that send out "blips" when the user is not actively transmitting. Still a cool idea... got a link?

    Edit: Found it: http://www.target-automotive.nl/en/target-blu-eye/ As I suspected, it monitors the TETRA systems in Europe.
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesteel View Post
    Blueye monitors radio traffic activity used by emergency vehicles and alerts when they are in close proximity. It does not allow someone to actually listen in on radio transmissions, but alerts to the presence of an emergency vehicle (police, fire, ambulance,etc.) up to 1km away. Made by Target Automotive, the device can detect pulses sent over these channels every few seconds, so it works even when there are no transmissions. $1,600 and only available in the UK for now, but a model for the USA's P25 protocol is on the way.

    I like the idea if they cut the price to about $400. And only if they allow a Bluetooth connection to a smart-phone, WITH an ap that runs in the background and notifies with a pop up window.
    nice find ^^^^^ Blue! Years ago we had a similar concept incorporated into a CB radio called a BCT( Beartracker). I had one and it didn't work very well. It was supposed to capture those transmissions and then tell you approximately where they were. I'd love it if we had a new digital version that actually worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggarrett View Post
    I can see how this could be useful in Europe, where scanners are illegal most places and the radio protocols are encrypted. That price tag is way high, though. In the US you can get a digital scanner for $300 or so and with careful programming achieve the same effect. I was able to hack together a cellphone app using a serial to blutooth adapter that works as you describe:https://www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=31131

    I've only had a few successful "close call" hits... just road construction crews and factory maintenance personnel I happened to drive past. Aside from police mobile computers, I'm not aware of any radio protocols that send out "blips" when the user is not actively transmitting. Still a cool idea... got a link?

    Edit: Found it: http://www.target-automotive.nl/en/target-blu-eye/ As I suspected, it monitors the TETRA systems in Europe.

    The blips are the repeaters that the vehicles use to communicate with the body radios the Leo's wear.
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

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    nice find ^^^^^ Blue! Years ago we had a similar concept incorporated into a CB radio called a BCT( Beartracker). I had one and it didn't work very well. It was supposed to capture those transmissions and then tell you approximately where they were. I'd love it if we had a new digital version that actually worked.[COLOR="Navy"]
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

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    nice find ^^^^^ Blue! Years ago we had a similar concept incorporated into a CB radio called a BCT( Beartracker). I had one and it didn't work very well. It was supposed to capture those transmissions and then tell you approximately where they were. I'd love it if we had a new digital version that actually worked.

    I still have mine, I use it at the NASCAR races I have to go to. The only thing it was good for was listening in on canadian truckers giving out the bear calls on CB, and even that was not that helpful.
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    This seems to be the modern take of the Uniden Beartracker technology which, instead of listening for the 4 second Tetra pulses, listened for mobile repeater transmissions. My BCT-7 had this and it worked pretty well. When it picked up the mobile repeater transmissions it would alert with beeps and a flashing red light. You were with a mile or so when it alerted and it seemed to be very effective. When it went off I would come upon an LEO about 50% of the time. No doubt the other 50% were LEO bogies too, just not on the same road I was traveling. Alas, I've pretty much retired the BCT-7 in favor of the PSR-800. But I miss the Beartracker feature. I can't wait to see how the P25 tracker works for the US.


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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    Quote Originally Posted by ersin View Post
    This seems to be the modern take of the Uniden Beartracker technology which, instead of listening for the 4 second Tetra pulses, listened for mobile repeater transmissions. My BCT-7 had this and it worked pretty well. When it picked up the mobile repeater transmissions it would alert with beeps and a flashing red light. You were with a mile or so when it alerted and it seemed to be very effective. When it went off I would come upon an LEO about 50% of the time. No doubt the other 50% were LEO bogies too, just not on the same road I was traveling. Alas, I've pretty much retired the BCT-7 in favor of the PSR-800. But I miss the Beartracker feature. I can't wait to see how the P25 tracker works for the US.



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    My scanning experience is limited to my PSR-800. I am wondering if this EU system can indeed capture the digital trunked systems that most (BUT NOT ALL) Depts. use. If it works as well as the vid (not much distance though??), I'd call it a win for sure!!! You guys with scanner experience, what do you think??
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    Some interesting reading on P25:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...ctive_tracking -discusses vulnerabilities in the protocol

    http://op25.osmocom.org/trac/wiki - software defined radio project

    Motorola trunked systems are extremely common in the US. I would think this would also need to be implemented in the US version.

    The "Close Call" feature in Uniden scanners (called "Signal Stalker" on RS/GRE scanners) could work something like this device. You would have to be careful to mask out unwanted frequencies or the thing would be going off all the time. Range definitely will be short (depends on your antenna and transmitter power):

    http://wiki.radioreference.com/index...den_Close_Call
    For the Close Call feature to detect a signal, that signal must be about 15-18dB stronger than the RF noise floor in the band being checked. This means that there is no real way to predict the range within which signals will be caught. The factors that influence range, however are:
    RF Noise Floor in the band (lower noise floor increases range)
    RF Power Output of the Transmitter (higher power increases range)
    Antenna being used to receive (too complicated to predict, but it does have an effect)(by acting as a tuned system, it can preselect within the required band. Other out of band signals will be attenuated) )

    Note that "RF Noise Floor" in this context includes signals from any other transmitters operating in that band. So, at busy airports, getting a hit might be difficult (lots of VHF signal sources all the time, as well as a few continuous VHF broadcast sources). In general, a 1W portable will be captured up to around 100' (30m). 4W portable around 250' (75m), 25W mobile up to a half mile (805m) or more, and 100W base stations up to several miles/km. Other signals will affect Close Call range due to the nature of nearfield reception.
    Also see:
    http://forums.radioreference.com/uni...all-range.html

    I think some of the new SDR technologies will go a long way towards solving this problem.



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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    Quote Originally Posted by ggarrett View Post
    I can see how this could be useful in Europe, where scanners are illegal most places and the radio protocols are encrypted. That price tag is way high, though. In the US you can get a digital scanner for $300 or so and with careful programming achieve the same effect. I was able to hack together a cellphone app using a serial to blutooth adapter that works as you describe:https://www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=31131

    I've only had a few successful "close call" hits... just road construction crews and factory maintenance personnel I happened to drive past. Aside from police mobile computers, I'm not aware of any radio protocols that send out "blips" when the user is not actively transmitting. Still a cool idea... got a link?

    Edit: Found it: http://www.target-automotive.nl/en/target-blu-eye/ As I suspected, it monitors the TETRA systems in Europe.
    Our locals mobile computers are cellular. You can see the mifi hotspot mounted on top of their dash. I think the days of police computers transmitting over radio are over. Government cell contracts are cheap and unlimited. You can clearly see their toughbook mounted in the car too.
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    Re: Blueye police radio detector

    This sounds like a really cool idea - I just wander how well it will work due to all the different systems in place here in the US.


 
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