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Thread: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

[P] Discussion relating to dash cams such as the Blackvue or GoPro and blackbox-style recording devices.

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    Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Found this clip over on carcamcentral. This settles it for me, definitely going with the FineVu once they release the english firmware. The Itronics is pretty close to it in night performance, but the Blackvue lags considerably behind...this is the first gen, and from what I've seen, the Season II is even worse at night.








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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Contrast on the FineVu looks good, as does dynamic range. 1080p/30fps is nice like the BV which the ITB doesn't do. The FV looks like it flares the worst but has the least halo'ing. The FV has the widest field of view, followed by the ITB, then the BV.

    The voltage info on the screen looks trivial, as is what I'm assuming to be X/Y/Z axis measurements of impact/bumpiness... I forget what the word is.

    I'm really curious about daylight performance and how it handles shooting into/away from the sun.

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    There's a bunch of bright writing everywhere. A few strips of black gaffer tape should cover that right up.

    Memory card slot is away from the power cable which is nice... unlike the BV whose power cable makes it a PITA to get to the card. Looks like there is a cover for the card slot which looks like it would get annoying to access if you run it to the right side of your RVM.

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    It looks really shiny and reflective. Non-reflective matte black, like you'll see on RD's, is what you actually want. Looks like a Sony handycam product.

    The price on eBay looks to be $300-400 whereas the BV and ITB run closer to $200.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=cr-500hd&_sop=15

    Like the BV, it takes the annoyingly small and easy to drop/lose MicroSD cards. I much prefer the larger SD cards of the ITB.

    It looks like it might need an external GPS (!?) in order to get speed? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong because that sounds dumb... Not only is there an added cost to get the GPS (keep in mind the camera is already 1.5-2x the price of its competitors), you have extra cables and components running in your car. In the ITB and the BV, the GPS is integrated within the camera housing itself.

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    Like the ITB and unlike the BV, you can format the card in-camera.

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    It comes with a big, shiny, reflective, visible chrome front. Not quite as visible as the BV, but less stealthy as the fully black ITB.

    It supports Class 10 MicroUSB cards. Good.

    So without actually using the device or seeing daytime videos, and seeing how different the BV and ITB are in the daytime, I'm not convinced quite yet that it's an all-around better camera or provides a better user experience than either the ITB or the BV.
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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    I agree with many of your points. While I don't personally mind the shiny black finish, I would use tape / vinyl to cover-up the writing as well as the chrome ring around the front. As you mentioned, it looks like a Sony product (I personally wish Sony would make a dashcam) which I am ok with, and on that note, don't forget that the FineVu uses a quality Sony Exmor R CMOS as opposed to an unknown type in the others.

    The extra on-screen data, I agree is unnecessary, and appears cannot be turned off. At least this is placed at the bottom of the frame and doesn't block any of the footage. A slight annoyance at best.

    It does require an external GPS module and a separate wire/plug for that, which I don't necessarily like. However, I'll just shroud them both together and run them inside the headliner. I'll then place the GPS antenna out of sight behind the A-pillar trim panel.

    I've seen normal daytime footage, which also looks very good. As far as shooting into direct sunlight, I haven't been able to find any samples yet. As this is an improvement over the 300 model, which is pretty highly reviewed and many reviewers feel is (was) one of if not THE best dashcam available, here is a sample of shooting into the sun in winter from the CR-300:



    The 300 performs pretty good in this situation, and I would expect the 500 to handle it equally well, if not better (nothing can be worse than my Blackvue). Note that in this video, the camera is also aimed quite high, covering a lot of the sky. I had to aim my Blackview down slightly so that it reduced the amount of sky it would see to try to minimize washout.

    I don't mind the micro SD memory cards. I have several around anyway, and have yet to lose one - this is not a factor for me in deciding on a camera. I have my 32gig Patriot at the ready.

    Do note that the price you quoted includes the external GPS module. Agree, some may find the GPS add-on dumb, while others who may not want the GPS function might find it ideal, as it allows for a more compact unit by not including the GPS components into the camera body. This also isolates any extra heat that the GPS would generate from the camera itself, AND...if you ever experience a GPS problem / failure, allows for it to be repaired or replaced without losing the functionality of the camera. Pros AND cons....totally up to the individual.

    I have no issues with the price at all. The camera AND GPS module can be had for just over 300 bucks. Even at 400 bucks, this still isn't an expensive purchase. I'll gladly spend that knowing I am going to be getting a quality product that will last, rather than spend less and take a gamble on an unknown. I spent over 200 bucks on my Blackvue, which is already on its last legs (9 months later). Lesson learned there!

    As far as access, the camera can tilt AND swivel on its mount, making access easier (at least the 300 can, and this mount looks exactly the same). This swivel function also provides an option to aim the camera to the side, useful, for example, if you want to monitor the side of you car for door dings in a parking lot, or if you get pulled over and want to record your exchange with the LEO and capture his friendly, smiling face. I am a "careful" parker to try to avoid dings, and when faced with limited options, I try to park at the very end of a row so that if I am exposed to potential door dings, at least it is only on one side. This swivel feature would be a benefit for me, and one that the other cameras don't provide.

    Perhaps it's not ideal for everyone, and every camera has its pros and cons. From what I've seen and read, this cam fits my needs nicely, and FineVu has a very good reputation in this market, which adds a little bit of peace of mind.
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    Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    That daylight footage from the 300 driving into the sun looks pretty spectacular.

    It does a great job handling flare and exposure of both the sky and the ground. Much better than how either the BV or the ITB would handle it.

    It handles exposure changes better as well when the camera turns towards or away from the sun.

    hmm...
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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Vortex,

    Looks like FineVu also has a polarizer attachement, which (in my limited knowledge), might be beneficial?

    http://www.finevu.com/product/cr-500hd/cr-500hd.jsp







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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    If so, that'll be pretty handy! It looks like it's a custom mount, not the traditional screw on mount for the filter threads on the camera.

    It'll make your colors look better, skies bluer, clouds stand out more, kill off many of the reflections, and will let you see through car windows more easily.

    There's tradeoffs like you'll see banding across the sky when shooting with such a wide angle lens, you'll have more flare shooting into the sun because you're adding another glass element which leads to more reflections, your image quality will be reduced to some degree, and you'll see funky changes in the sky as your car turns and changes direction.

    Depending on where you drive, what direction you drive, and what time of the day you're driving, it could really help make things look better.
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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Well, I just pulled the trigger on the 500. Got the camera, GPS, and the CPL filter for $365 ($358 Cdn). Happy with that price and hope it lives up to my expectations. I have a $245 dollar warranty cheque coming from Square Trade for my defective Blackvue, so this is about a 100 dollar upgrade. Here is the ebay ad:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FINEVU-CR500HD-FullHD-16GB-Car-Vehicle-Driving-Recorder-Camera-CPL-Filter-/261099583011?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160

    The software / firmware is still in english, but they say they provide an english manual, so hopefully its no big deal to get set up.

    My Caddy gets parked for the winter, so I'll probably mount it in the wife's Jeep.

    As for the polarizer, here's a separate post from the same seller for it separately. Looks like it pushes on and then you can rotate it as required.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FINEVU-CPL-Filter-CR-300HD-Car-Black-Box-/261001009013?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item3cc4df5775







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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Very cool. I'm eager to see how things look with this camera.

    When you get it set up, I've got a few quick questions while you test that polarizer...

    How much more flare you get when shooting into the sun with in on versus with it off?

    Here's a quick sample image I found on Google Images of a wide angle shot taken with a polarizer. (I have no idea what camera took this image.)

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    Note the uneven banding across the sky. It'll be darkest 90 degrees way from the sun. Do you see this to be an issue as you drive and change directions?

    Also if you look at this picture, you'll see vignetting... the darkening in the corners because the filter actually cuts into the edges of the image. Does this filter do that?
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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Will do....got a group email last week from the seller that advised that he was waiting for the CPL filters from his supplier, but that the cameras were shipped and he would ship the polarizers separately once he received them. The camera should be arriving next week,and hopefully the polarizer won't be too far behind. I'll try to remember to do an unboxing review etc. once I receive it, as well as some real world testing.







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    Re: Comparison - Blackvue DR400G-HD, Itronics ITB-100HD, FineVu CR500HD

    Looks like http://www.facebook.com/Blackboxmycar will be selling them too at some point.

    Going to be keeping an eye on this to see if the finevue would be the one to get vs the other 2 talked about here
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